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 This is the original posting by 'Anonymous', the key information provider on this site. Also included are three responses and seemingly independent verifications of the information.

First let me introduce myself. My name is Request Anonymous.

I am a retired employee of the U.S. Government. I won't go into any great details about my past, but I was involved in a special program. 

As for Roswell, it occurred, but not like the storybooks tells. There were two crash sites. One southwest of Corona, New Mexico and the second site at Pelona Peak, south of Datil, New Mexico. 

The crash involved two extraterrestrial aircraft. The Corona site was found a day later by an archaeology team.

This team reported the crash site to the Lincoln County Sheriff's department. A deputy arrived the next day and summoned a state police officer. One live entity [EBE] was found hiding behind a rock. The entity was given water but declined food. The entity was later transferred to Los Alamos. 

The information eventually went to Roswell Army Air Field. The site was examined and all evidence was removed. The bodies were taken to Los Alamos National Laboratory because they had a freezing system that allowed the bodies to remain frozen for research. The craft was taken to Roswell and then onto Wright Field, Ohio.



The second site was not discovered until August 1949 by two ranchers. They reported their findings several days later to the sheriff of Catron County, New Mexico. Because of the remote location, it took the sheriff several days to make his way to the crash site. Once at the site, the sheriff took photographs and then drove back to Datil.

Sandia Army Base, Albuquerque, New Mexico was then notified. A recovery team from Sandia took custody of all evidence, including six bodies. The bodies were taken to Sandia Base, but later transferred to Los Alamos.
The live entity established communications with us and provided us with a location of his home planet. The entity remained alive until 1952, when he died. But before his death, he provided us with a full explanation of the items found inside the two crafts. One item was a communication device. The entity was allowed to make contact with his planet. 



Somehow, I never knew this information, but a meeting date was set for April 1964 near Alamogordo New Mexico. The Aliens landed and retrieved the bodies of their dead comrades. Information was exchanged. Communication was in English. The aliens had a translation device. 

In 1965, we had an exchange program with the aliens. We carefully selected 12 military personnel; ten men and two women. They were trained, vetted and carefully removed from the military system. The 12 were skilled in various specialties. 

Near the northern part of the Nevada Test Site, the aliens landed and the 12 Americans left. One entity was left on Earth. The original plan was for our 12 people to stay 10 years and then return to Earth. 



But something went wrong. The 12 remained until 1978, when they were returned to the same location in Nevada. Seven men and one woman returned. Two died on the alien's home planet. Four others decided to remain, according to the returnees. Of the eight that returned, all have died. The last survivor died in 2002.

Clarification (By Victor martinez ):
The paragraph above contains a typo in the original. Twelve team members went, and eight returned – two having died on Serpo and two having chosen to remain; these two were not ordered to return.

The returnees were isolated from 1978 until 1984 at various military installations. The Air Force Office of Special Investigation (AFOSI) was responsible for their security and safety. AFOSI also conducted debriefing sessions with the returnees. 



I have never seen or read anything about the exchange program. I once heard a little bit of information from Linda Howe, but she didn't have much information. 
I've monitored your e-mails for about six months. I've read e-mails from you and others. But I've never seen nor heard the truth about the real Roswell incident or the exchange program. 

I'd like to hear what others say about this.

Comment 1 (By Gene Loscowski ):


Who is this person? Most of the information is absolutely correct. 

However, I never heard of any females going. To the best of my knowledge, we had 12 men, all military men. Eight USAF, two Army and two Navy guys. I think the females are a red herring. But maybe I just didn't have the clearance for that. 

They left and was gone 20 years, as I was told. When they came back they were put in quarantine for 365 days at the complex. Only eight came back, that much is right. Two died a few years into their assignment on the Visitor's planet. Two others decided to remain and maybe are still alive today. Since their return, all have died. The last being in 2003 in a VA hospital. 

As for the Roswell incident. Whoever sent the e-mail is correct. 

The complete debriefing is contained in: "PROJECT SERPO," Final Report-80HQD893-020, classified TS, Code word. Ask [Rick] Doty about that report because I think it is an OSI report. Paul [McGovern] should be commenting on this since he was involved in the debriefing.


Clarification (By Victor martinez ):
December 1: This project classification was provided by Paul McGovern, not Gene Loscowski. Apologies for the error.] 


Comment 2 (By Paul Mc Govern ):



Interesting but not totally correct [commenting on Anonymous original e-mail]. As for the Roswell incident: absolutely right. Few people have ever gotten it entirely correct. Two crash sites, not one. As for the exchange program: Unauthorized Release of Classified Information, as I see it. But maybe someone currently within our government wants it out. No females were sent.

Twelve men, all-military. 8 USAF, 2 U.S. Army and 2 U.S. Navy. Two were doctors; three were scientists; two were language specialists; two were security personnel; two were pilots and one was the leader (Colonel-AF).



All were sheep-dipped and completely erased from the military roles. I'm not totally sure of the training period, but I think it was about six months. They were able to transmit messages to Earth by means of a communication system set up prior to their trip. 

One doctor and one of the security personnel died three years into their visit. The doctor died of pneumonia and the security guy died of an injury.

The exchange team had to endure extreme hardship adjusting to the environment of the visitor's planet. 

The heat was extreme and took many years to adjust. The food was something of a problem because the human system had problems digesting it. The team took enough food for two years and rationed it another eight months, but eventually had to eat the visitor's [Eben's: alien's name] food. This caused all team members gastrointestinal problems. Eventually, they adjusted.

The visitors tried to create different foods but few worked. 

The team was never isolated or restricted by the visitors. They could travel as they wished and see whatever they wanted to see. After about six years, the team moved to a northern portion of the visitor's planet, where the temperature was cooler and which contained ample vegetation.


The visitors built a small community for the team. The only major problem was time. Time was different on the visitor's planet. I don't think anyone ever figured it out. The visitors had no clocks. They didn't judge or account for time as we did. The visitors found our attempts to account for time strange.



The visitors were extremely disciplined in their daily lives. Every visitor worked on a schedule, which was not by a clock, but by the movement of their sun. Each little community had a large tower, which filtered the sun through. When the sun was at a particular point on the tower, it meant the visitors had to do a particular thing. 


There was never complete darkness on the visitor's planet. It got dim but not dark. The visitors had rest periods, but not like our sleep periods.
The visitors rested three times during their sun days. Our team determined the entire work period was approx. 43 hours. They had three rest periods within that 43 hours. That is still about 14 hours straight, couldn't get too many of our workers to do that! The visitors also didn't have months or years. 


They did have life periods, as our team coined it. It was impossible to judge the visitor's age, although our team did find graves. The population of the visitor's planet was about 650,000.

There were small communities throughout the planet. There were underground rivers, which fed into open valleys. There was industry. 

But all of the food was grown, either in fields or in large buildings. They did have animals. Different types. Strange large beasts, they used for work and other things, but no meat was eaten.
The geological make up of the planet was so much different than ours. Few mountains, no oceans, some trees or something similar to trees and no other civilization except the Ebens.



Everyone looked the same initially to our team. But after some time, the team members learned to identify different Ebens by their voices. Although the Ebens couldn't speak English, they did make noises that our team members were able to translate into English. After five years, we had their language completely translated into English. The complete debriefing accounts for about three thousand pages.

Comment 3 (By Anonymous II ):



I would prefer you keep my name private. 

But here is my evaluation of the information from "Anonymous."



1. As for the Roswell incident [described by Anonymous in his e-mail]: This was the story I read in the historical document called the "Red Book." Almost exactly to the word. Although there were more details about the crash sites and what was recovered.


2. As for the Exchange Program: I read about it but thought there were 12 men; I don't recall any women. But that was about all I knew. We did have a special unit that handled their debriefing but USAF positive intelligence was also involved. I was never involved in that program, but I knew other agents who were.


3. I'd like to contact this source. I have about a million questions to ask! 

I heard Linda Howe speak about the exchange program some years ago. I always wondered where she got her information. 

Keep up the excellent work!

Posting II by Anonymous1 November 4, 2005 :


Paul is not correct. There were two females, one being a doctor and the other being a linguist. 

There was a period of darkness, but not total darkness. The Eben planet is located within a solar system of the Zeta Recticular Star System [two 5th-magnitude yellow double stars, similar to our Sun located near the Large Magellanic Cloud].

The planet had two suns but their angles were small and allowed some darkness on the planet depending on one's location. 

The planet was tilted which allowed the northern part of the planet to be cooler. The planet was a little less than Earth's size. The atmosphere was similar to Earths and contained the elements of CHON [Carbon, Hydrogen, Oxygen, Nitrogen].
Zeta Recticular is approximately 37 light years from us. It took our team, in an Eben craft, nine months to travel the distance. 

During the trip, each of our team members were frequently dizzy, disoriented and suffered headaches.

The craft did not go through any weightlessness during the trip. The craft was very large and allowed the team to exercise. 

Once the team arrived on the Eben planet; it took them several months to adjust to the atmosphere. During the adjustment period, they suffered headaches, dizziness and disorientation. 


The bright suns of the Eben planet also presented problems. Although they had sunglasses, they still suffered from the bright sunlight and the danger of sun exposure.

The radiation levels of the planet were a little higher than that of Earth. They were careful to cover their bodies at all times. 

The Ebens had no forms of refrigeration, except in industry. The temperature of the planet, at the center portion, stayed between 94° and 115° they did have clouds and rain, but not frequently.
At the northern hemisphere of the planet, the temperature dropped to between 55 and 80 degrees. This was too cool for the Ebens, or at least most. Our team did find Ebens living in the north, but in very small villages.


Our team eventually relocated to the north in order to stay cool. The ground transportation used by our team was similar to a helicopter. The power system was a sealed energy device that provided electrical power and lift for the craft. It was very easy to fly and our pilots learned the system within days. The Ebens did have vehicles, which floated above the ground and did not have any tires or wheels.
There were leaders, but no real form of government. There was virtually no crime seen by the team. They had an army, which also acted as the police force. But no guns or weapons of any type were seen by our team. There were regular meetings within each small community.
There was one large community, which acted as the central point of the civilization. All the industry was at this one large community. There was no money.
Every Eben was issued what they needed. No stores, malls or shopping locations. There were central distribution centers where Ebens went to obtain items of needs. All Ebens worked in some capacity. Children were kept very isolated. The only trouble our team members got into was when they attempted to photograph Eben children. 

The Army politely escorted them away and cautioned them not to do it again.

Posting III by Anonymous November 7, 2005:


Our team collected statistics on the Eben planet. Here is the pertinent data for your UFO thread list:
Diameter: 7,218 miles
Mass: 5.06 x 10 24
Distance from Sun #1: 96.5 million miles
Sun #2: 91.4 million miles
Moons: 2
Surface gravity: 9.60m/s 2
Rotation Periods: 43 hours
Orbit: 865 days
Tilt: 43 degrees
Temperature: Min: 43° / Max: 126°
Distance from Earth: 38.43 light years
Planet named by Team: SERPO
Nearest planet to SERPO: Named: OTTO
Distance: 88 million miles (colonized by Ebens with research base, but no natural inhabitants on planet)
Number of planets in Eben Solar System: Six
Nearest inhabited planet to SERPO:
Named: SILUS (SILUS is made up of creatures of various types, but no intelligent life forms. Ebens use the planet to mine minerals.)
Distance: 434 million miles

We did have visitors from nine other star systems.


The Grays, which some people characterize as being like the Ebens, were not. They came from a planet near Alpha Centauri A. 
ALPHA CENTAURI is a nearby multiple star with a magnitude of -0.3 and is the third brightest star in the sky.

It consists of two yellow and orange stars of magnitudes 0.0 and 1.4. There is also a much fainter third star, an 11th magnitude red dwarf called Proxima Centauri. This is the closest to our Sun, 4.2 light years away or about 0.2 light years closer to us than the two brighter members of the Alpha Centauri system.]


The third class of visitors came from a G2 star system in Leo or Leo minor ? : Star distances range from 20-25 - 77 light years away. Notable interest is Gamma Leonis which is a glorious double star consisting of two golden orange giants of magnitudes 2.4 and 3.5.

They are a genuine binary pair orbiting each other every 600 years or so. 
LEO MINOR: Squeezed between Leo and Ursa Major with its brightest star Beta Leonis Minoris that has a magnitude of 4.2. It is a close double star, which are 145 light years away with an orbital period of 37 years.] 



Another class of visitors came from a G2 star system in Epsilon Eridani. 

[EPSILON ERIDANI is one of the closest naked-eye stars to our Sun. It is 10.5 light years way with a magnitude of 3.7. Although somewhat cooler and fainter than the Sun, it is otherwise similar.]


The visitors were classified by a code. The code, which was classified in itself, was, "Extraterrestrial Entities" (ETE). ETE-2 were the Ebens, the Grays were ETE-3, and so on. 

The "Red Book" lists nine different visitors. We determined recently that some of the visitors were the same type of race but a "mechanical life form." They were hybrid beings that were created in a laboratory rather than by natural birth. 

The creatures were more like robots, although they were intelligent and could make decisions. They might be the "hostile" visitors that some people report. 

To the best of my knowledge, we have NOT had any visitation since 1985 from the Ebens.

Posting IV by Anonymous November 9, 2005:

Thanks for forwarding my information to your e-mail stream list without ID'ing me. I realize it might be a little difficult for you to keep my name confidential with the mounting pressure enormous, but I don't wish to reveal it at this time; perhaps to Richard C Doty in due time as his questions and online demeanor seems to be the most fair, open minded, and his questions posed were the most reasonable as I monitor the online feedback after each new posting.


I also realize your list of quizzical people have numerous probing questions. I'll try to answer them, but you must understand that all of this information is contained in a huge voluminous book. There are literally hundreds of pages of scientific calculations trying to understand Serpo, the orbit, etc.
I could not possibly relate all of that information via e-mail. 

Our scientists had the same questions, as posed by your audience. Our scientists questioned our team members and the information they gathered. Our scientists could not understand how the orbit of Serpo could revolve around the two suns at the distance measured.

In the end, our scientists found that some things relating to that particular system was different in physics compared to our system. There were some questions about how our team measured the orbit and other calculations based on the lack of a stable time base. For some reason - and I don't think this was ever determined - our time instruments did not work on Serpo.

Now, considering this, you can understand the difficult job our team members had making calculations without time. They had to come up with an alternate method to measure speeds, orbits, etc.
Challenge: Try solving a problem in physics without being able to measure time on Earth! 

So you see, our team did the best they could with the instruments they had and the hardships they developed attempting scientific calculations. It is difficult for any Earth-based scientist to understand the different physics in other solar systems or on other planets.

One of the questions sent me involved Kepler's Law of Planetary Motion. Our team had that information. We had some of the best military scientists on the team. But if you consider Kepler's Law, it requires time and our team could only measure time in the conventional way. It was determined that Kepler's Laws did not apply to that solar system.

Moderator's Comment ( Victor Martinez ):

[Johannes Kepler was a German astronomer and mathematician, 1571-1630. Kepler's discovery of Mars' elliptical orbit led to the publication in 1609 of three laws of planetary motion.
1) First law: States that a planet moves on an elliptical path with the sun at one focus point.
2) Second law: States that a planet moves faster when closer to the sun and slower when farther away.
3) Third law: Makes it possible to calculate a planet's relative distance from the Sun. Specifically, the law states that the cube of a planet's average distance from the Sun is equal to the square of the time it takes that planet to complete its orbit.]

Conclusion :
One of the things our Earth-based scientists learned was not to apply Earth's laws of physics in a universal way.
Serpo was estimated to be about three billion years old. The two suns were about five billion years old, but only by estimation.

The Eben civilization was estimated to be about 10,000 years old. They evolved from another planet, not on Serpo. The original home planet of the Ebens was threatened with extreme volcanic activity.
The Ebens had to relocate to Serpo in order to protect their civilization. This occurred some 5,000 years ago.
The Ebens had a great interplanetary battle with another race about 3,000 years ago. They lost many thousands in their battle.
The Ebens completely eliminated all of their enemies. They have never fought another war since. They have been space travelers for the past 2,000 years.
The Ebens first visited Earth about 2,000 years ago. Why does the Eben population number only about 650,000? The Ebens have a very stable, structured civilization. Each male has a mate. They are allowed to reproduce (in somewhat the same sexual way we do), but are limited to only a specific number of children. Our team never saw a family with more than two children.

The Eben civilization was so structured that they planned the birth of each and every child, spacing them apart to allow the proper social grouping of the civilization. Eben children matured at a super rate, compared to Earth children. Our team watched live births, attended to by an Eben doctor, and then watched the development of the child over a period of time, team member's time.

They matured at an alarming rate. 

The Ebens had scientists, doctors and technicians. There was one educational facility on the planet. If one was chosen, you attended the facility and learned the job one was best qualified and suited for. Although it was extremely difficult to judge or measure, the team estimated each Eben's IQ to be 165.
The Ebens had no single ruler. There was"Council of Governors," which the team named. This group controlled every single action on the planet. The members of the council seemed to have been around for a long time. Since Ebens didn't age - or at least our team couldn't detect aging - it was difficult to judge the age of each member.

There were about 100 different villages or living locations for the Ebens. The Ebens only used a small portion of their planet. They did mine minerals in remote areas of the planet and had a large industrial plant in the southern portion of the planet near a body of water. Our team determined this plant had some sort of hydro electrical operation.
They developed a different type of electrical and propulsion system. It was unknown to our team and I don't think we ever really understood it. They were able to tap into a vacuum and bring back an enormous amount of energy from that vacuum.

Our team's living quarters, which consisted of several small buildings, contained electricity powered by a small box. This small box supplied all the power our team needed. Ironically, the electrical equipment our team brought on the trip worked using their power source only.

Ebens did die. Our team members saw deaths, some from accidents and some from natural causes. The Ebens buried the bodies, similar to our method. Our team saw two air accidents involving their intra-planet flying vehicle.
The Ebens worshipped a Supreme Being. It appeared to be some sort of deity relating to the Universe. They conducted daily services, normally at the end of the first work period. They had a building or church they entered to worship.

Our team left Earth in a large Eben spacecraft and flew to Serpo in approximately nine months by our team's measurement of time. Upon our team's return, they traveled on a newer Eben craft. The time, estimated by our team for the return, was seven months

Moderator's Addendum To Above ( Victor martinez ) :


Project Aquarius briefing document 
ABOVE TOP SECRET / MAJIC EYES ONLY 
(TS/ORCON)

Most governmental documents pertaining to UFO sightings, incidents and governmental policies, including "Project Blue Book," have been released to the public under FOIA or under various other release programs. 
MJ-12 felt the remaining documents and information (not relating to "Project Aquarius" relating to technological facts regarding alien medical matters, the fact that an alien was captured alive and survived three years under secrecy, cannot be released to the public for fear the information would be obtained by SHIS.

There was other information obtained from EBE that was deemed sensitive and not releasable to the public. 
Notably, "Project Aquarius," Volume IX, which pertains to tracing the alien's first visitation of Earth back some 5,000 years. EBE reported that 2,000 years ago, his ancestors planted a human creature on earth to assist the inhabitants of Earth in developing a civilization.
This information was only vague and the exact identity or background information on this homo-sapien was not obtained.


Undoubtedly, if this information was released to the public, it would cause a worldwide panic. MJ-3 has developed a plan that will allow release of Project Aquarius, Volumes I - III. 
The release program calls for a gradual release of information over a period of time in order to condition the public for future disclosures. Attachment 5 of this briefing contains certain guidelines for future public releases.]

Comment By ( Paul Mc Govern ) :

Sometimes the truth is hard to understand, especially by closed-minded people. 

Please read Einstein's statement made to a German scientific society on May 11, 1934. I won't actually quote him, but he said the dumbest people in the world are the scientists who keep their minds closed to new ideas.
You are trying to base our scientific understandings on another world. We found a long time ago that that type of thinking blocked progress. We could never have understood the visitor's gifts if we had people like some trying to figure it out. We had open-minded scientists who were able to think beyond the realm of Earth-based science. I'm no scientist, but I know enough to keep an open mind. I cannot vouch for Victor's source's statistics, but I know he must be speaking from knowledge because it is the same knowledge I read years ago. 

Just keep an open mind, people. Once you close that mind, you are lost in your own misguided thoughts.... 


The complete debriefing accounts for about three thousand pages.

Posting V by Anonymous November 13, 2005:

Thank you for the cooperation you display regarding my information. Your attention to this matter is highly and greatly appreciated. I sometime type faster that think and thus my fingers make the grammar/spelling errors!

My colleagues and I are discussing several different options regarding the release of this information. First, we must obtain proper sanction from past officials. The group called MJ-12 - which wasn't really the group that controlled the information - but for the sake of clarity, we'll just call them "MJ-12."
The actual name of the group who controlled, managed and oversaw the Serpo project was called ____ ____. 

Many have died, but we still have a few around. We are asking their approval for release. Next, we must obtain current official sanction. This may be a little more difficult.
Current DIA officials have very little knowledge of this subject matter. However, we will move ahead with our plans. Our main supporter is _____ ______ ______ , a former director of __________. He is in our corner and will support our gradual release plan. 

The proposal by one of your readers [Bill Hamilton] regarding the Web site is a great idea. With the cooperation of several "co-authors," we might create a Web site and post some information on that site.

Until then, I will continue to provide the official information only through you. 

Regarding the Web site. I know we have some hurdles to overcome. Maybe that would/wouldn't be a good first step. But we have several different options. If Plan A doesn't work, maybe Plan B might. We have discussed everything from an international press conference to a National Press Club news conference. 

We are also considering your suggestion of releasing 100 key pages (out of the 3,000) to you and then your forwarding them around the country to the six key individuals you named in your e-mail: Dr ____ ____ , Dr ____ ____ , ____ ____ , ____ ____ , ____ ____ and ____ ____. 



Of these individuals, I agree with you that it would be of manifest importance to have someone like Dr ____ ____ , who has the stature and prominence in the scientific community, come on board and "in the loop" to not only give credibility to the programmed release, but also to assist in explaining the complex scientific/physics theories and principles to the layperson.

We'll let you know. I will provide some answers to the many questions once I find them. Remember, I have over 3,000 pages of to view and another two sizeable volumes of other supplementary data. 

I've studied the documents and debriefing data. I cannot find answers to everyone's questions, but I did find some answers especially to those posed by UFO thread list member, Bill Ryan.

1)) I find some of the questions [from various list members] to be very disturbing. I expected thoughtfulness in the responses, rather than criticism. The information I am providing is coming directly from official documents. But I guess it's difficult for our Earth-based scientists to understand something foreign to them.
The criticism being displayed by your list of scientists doesn't bother me. I'm just stating what the official documents say. As for the scientific calculations, our Earth-based scientists had the same questions. Our home-based scientists questioned the collection methods of the team. But in the end, our home-based scientists figured out that our applied scientific principals did not always work on Planet Serpo. Once our scientist's minds were open, the calculations were made to prove the team's data.

2) one of the principal home-based scientists (astronomer) contracted to assist us was Dr. Carl Edward Sagan. Initially, he was the biggest skeptic of the group. But as information was slowly analyzed, Dr. Sagan came back to the middle. I can't say he fully accepted every single piece of data, but he did agree on the final report.

3) Lively discussions bring out some very interesting questions. Some of which I cannot find answers to. Although our team spent over a decade (our time) on Serpo and nearby planets, they did not have a laptop computer to enter all data. They had two recorders, who were responsible for writing down the data. Our team acknowledged that a lot of data was lost or not documented. 

[Bill Ryan's questions] 


4) Regarding Time: The Team Members brought several time pieces, e.g., wrist watches, non-battery style, as it stated in the debriefing data. The timepieces worked, but they had no reference to time since the Eben days were longer, the dusk and dawn periods were longer and they had no calendars to reference. 
They did use the timepieces to calculate movement, for example, timing the movement of the Eben two suns.
They also calculated the time between work and rest periods. But, after awhile, the team discarded their timepieces and used the Eben's measurement of time periods. The team became confused with the calendars they brought - a 10-year calendar. 

After 24 months, the team lost track of time, as to the calendar since they could not properly calculate days compared to Earth days.

They set up one large clock to the earth time when they left. However, this was a battery-controlled clock and when the battery died, the clock stopped and they forgot to change the battery in time. Consequently, they lost the earth time. The team brought a large quantity of batteries, but they ran out after about five years. The Ebens had no comparable item like batteries. 



5) They also took electric razors, coffee pots, electric heaters, a DIM (no explanation as to what this was), an electric IBM typewriter, a scientific calculator, slide rules (both conventional and scientific), Base Data Collection Recorder (BDCR), three different sized telescopes, tangents, both conventional and electrical. 
The list goes on and on. But they took about everything they were allowed to take, as to weight. The Ebens did weigh the equipment taken by our team. The weight limit was 4.5 tons or 9,000 lbs. As for food, the team took C-Rations, military style. They carefully planned for 10 years.

6) another question pertained to the team make up. Why were only two females taken? 

If one considers the monumental problem associated with picking a team of 12 people, where each person must be totally erased from the military system - no family ties, no spouses and no children - one can see the difficulty that the selection group had. The selection group picked the best team members from a limited pool of military people. 

The original selection group picked 158 people. The final 12 were selected from that number. If you consider the psychological, medical and other tests that had to be administered, the final 12 were the best qualified from the original number. Why they chose two females was never written. Apparently, those two females were the best qualified in their individual specialty: a doctor and a linguist.

7) how did the Ebens advance so quickly? Nothing was written about this. But Earth-based scientists surmised that since the Eben culture consisted of just one species, their advancement excelled and accelerated more rapidly than a civilization that consisted of different species, different languages, etc.

8) Why are there only 650,000 in the Eben civilization? 

Again, the team never found the answer except that many hundreds of thousands of Ebens died in The Great War. Earth-based social behavior specialists surmised that the Eben civilization was structured to accommodate their own needs. Our team did find limited supplies of commodities on their planet. Large buildings were used to harvest food products. 

The soil wasn't rich in a lot of minerals. Ebens used a form of organic agriculture to harvest food items. Maybe the Ebens were scared that if they over populated the planet, they couldn't provide for their citizens. This is only my idea, and not anything written in the official records.

9) As to the Eben culture: They had a form of musical entertainment. The music sounded like tonal rhythms. They also listened to a type of chanting. The Ebens were dancers. They celebrated certain work periods with a ritual dance. The Ebens would form a circle and dance around, listening to the chanting type of music.
The music was played on bells and drums, or something similar to them. 

There were no televisions, radio stations or anything like that. The Ebens played a game, something like soccer, but with a larger ball. The object was to kick the ball down a field into a goal. The game had very strange rules and played for long periods of time. They also had another game, mostly played by the children that consisted of making formations with groups of Ebens. They seemed to really enjoy the game, but our team found little understanding of the game. 



Although the Eben civilization had no televisions, radios, etc.; each Eben had a small device belted to their waists. This device gave orders to perform a particular task, news of pending events, etc. The device displayed a screen, similar to a television screen but in a 3-D style format. Our team brought back one of these devices. (I think today, we could compare it to a palm pilot.)

10) The Eben's energy device was analyzed over and over again by our team. Since our team did not have access to scientific microscopes or other measuring equipment, we could not understand the function of the energy device. 

But, regardless of the electrical demand, the Eben energy device provided the proper current and wattage. Out team surmised the device had some sort of regulator that sensed the required current/wattage and then supplied that specific amount. (Note: Our Team Members brought back two energy devices for analysis.)

11) Serpo moved around one sun only. The other sun was within the two orbits. As I said before, there are hundreds of pages of calculations in the debriefing explaining all of this.

12) why some Team Members remained! 

The debriefing reported that the Team Members, who remained, did so voluntarily. They fell in love with the culture of the Ebens and the planet. They were not ordered to return. Communication with the remaining crewmembers lasted until about 1988. No other communication was received from those Team Members. The two - who died on the Planet Serpo - were placed in coffins and buried. Their bodies were returned to Earth.

13) Each Team Member received a large dose or radiation during their stay on Serpo. Most of the Team Members died later of radiation-related illnesses.

14) The Ebens fought a battle with an enemy for a period of time. Our Team Members estimated the war lasted about 100 years, but, again, that is our time. The war was fought using particle beam weapons, developed by both civilizations. The Ebens eventually were able to destroy the enemy planet, killing the remaining enemy forces.


The Ebens did warn us that several other alien races within our galaxy were hostile. The Ebens stay away from those races. The debriefing document never stated the name of the enemy, probably because they no longer existed. 



Facts on Dr Carl Sagan ( by Victor Martinez ):
Born in Brooklyn, NY on 11-9-'34 and died in Seattle, WA on 12-20-'96 of bone marrow cancer. He was an American astronomer, educator and planetary scientist and was the Director of the Laboratory for Planetary Studies at Cornell University.

Connecting the dots: "Project SERPO's" final report was written in 1980 with Dr Sagan having been brought in half way through the project. It is believed that he wrote his 1985 bestseller, CONTACT, based on his insider knowledge of the most secret project in human history: a human-alien exchange program of which he signed off on its final report! 
Years later, his book was made into the 1997 movie CONTACT starring Jodie Foster.]

Posting VI by Anonymous November 14, 2005:

You will be honored one day for providing assistance in our release of information. Many thanks. 

I do not feel that a dialogue or argument with non-believers would benefit our cause.
They have the right to criticize our information, but none of them will ever be involved in the final process.


This was a gigantic problem, to say the least. It took our linguist specialists several years to adequately establish a form of communication with the Ebens. A group of Ebens learned to understand English and a few other Earth languages. 

This group contained the "Travelers," as our team called them.
Our Team Members connected themselves with the Travelers. Although the Team couldn't always understand their responses, the Eben travelers understood our Team, most of the time. During this time period, the only exchange of information was simple. 

The Ebens, not being able to completely explain something to our team, used a form of sign language by pointing to the object or item they wished to explain and made hand movements. Our team, two members, eventually grasped that method of communication.

However, our Team didn't receive much information from the Ebens during this time period. 

The Travelers (the very few who understood English numbered about 30) did not fully understand all words in our language. Later, the Ebens called our language too complicated and difficult to understand.
We eventually determined the Eben Tonal Language to be very complicated and extremely hard to translate. We were able to record their language and then play it back, listening to each Tonal dialect and each tonal bar.

Eventually we crudely translated some of the language. We started with simple items, for example, the flying object that they used to travel around their planet on. Then things like houses, roads, food, clothing, their suns, their planet, etc. Although we did establish some form of communication, it was crude and not always helpful for our Team when something complicated happened. 

For example, when our first Team Member died in an accident, it was hard to communicate with the Ebens. The member died instantly, therefore, no medical care was provided.

Our two doctors examined the Member's body and determined the injuries were consistent with an accidental fall. Initially, the Ebens never interfered with our care or offered to provide any of their medical care.

However, once the Ebens - a very benevolent and caring people - saw our team members crying, the Ebens stepped in and offered to attempt some sort of medical care. Although our doctors felt the Team Member was medically dead, they allowed the Ebens to try their own medical care. Most of this was either through sign language or speaking to the Travelers who could understand some English.



The Ebens transported the Team Member's body to a remote area of the largest community. They took the body into a large building, apparently their hospital or medical center. The Ebens used a large examination table to view the body. The Ebens ran a large bluish-green light beam over the body.
The Ebens watched a display that appeared on a large screen that looked like a television screen. The readouts were in the Eben written language and thus our team could not understand it.

However, there was a graphic display, similar to a heat beat graph. The solid line was not wavering. Our doctors understood that meant the same thing that their equipment measured: the heart was not beating. The Ebens administered some liquid through a needle. This was done several times. Eventually, the heart started beating.

But our doctors knew the internal organs of the body were damaged, but couldn't fully explain that to the Ebens. The Ebens finally made a sign, placing both their hands to the chest and bowing their heads. Our team members knew that meant the body was dead and nothing could be done.

The Ebens showed affection to our Team. During the last work period, the Ebens had a ceremony for the dead Team Member, the same ceremony used when an Eben died. Our team held their own service, attended by the Ebens. The Ebens were extremely curious about our religious service. One Team Member, who was acting as a minister, performed a death service. Our Team was eternally grateful for the Eben's caring attitude for our dead friend.


The Ebens live in a very simple society. The individual Eben family contained a male, female and at least one child. Our team did find some families with as many as four children. We later learned those families were caring for children of Ebens who were either on Traveling Missions (exploring the universe) or dead Ebens.


Our Team witnessed an aircraft accident that killed four Ebens. The Ebens performed a form of ritual at the crash site. The Ebens transported the bodies to a medical facility and examined the bodies. Our Team Members were always allowed to accompany the Ebens, except during rest period, when the Ebens closed their doors for privacy.
Our Team Members saw the sorrow in the eyes of the Ebens during the death of their own. Later, after the last work period of the day, the Eben's had a "funeral," at least that is what our Team concluded it was. The Eben bodies were wrapped in a white cloth. Several types of liquids were poured over the bodies. Large numbers of Ebens would stand in a circle, chanting.

The sounds became almost nauseating to our Team Members. The ceremony lasted for a long time. Finally, the bodies were placed in metal containers and buried in a remote location away from the communities. After the burial, the Ebens had a feast. Large tables of food were brought out and everyone ate, danced and played games. This occurred at every Eben death witnessed by our team.

The individual Eben family lived a simple life. Their homes were constructed of clay, some type of material similar to wood, and some metal. The houses all looked the same. They appeared to be something from the Southwest, looking like adobe. The interior of the house consisted of four rooms. One sleeping room where all Ebens slept in the same room on mats, a food preparation room (kitchen), a family room (the largest in the house) and a small waste room.


This brought up an interesting point for our Team. The Ebens did not have a physiological need to release body wastes as we did. The Eben's had small collection locations in the residence for their body wastes. But the Eben's body was extremely efficient in processing all food taken in. Their body wastes consisted of a small amount of fecal matter, similar to a small cat dropping.

Our Team Members never saw any urine excretion from an Eben. On the other hand, our Team Member's wastes consisted of bulk quantity of both fecal matter and urine. The Ebens had to dig large waste reception sites for our 12 Team Member's waste. The Ebens accommodated our team.

Food, as I mentioned previously, was a problem for our Team Members. Our Team consumed mostly military-style C-Rations, but eventually had to switch to Eben food. The Ebens had a variety of food items. They grew vegatables. Our Team found items similar to potatoes, but they tasted different.
They had some type of lettuce, turnips, and tomatoes. They were the only items similar to ours. The Eben's had other vegatables grown. 

These were strange looking round items with long vines. The Ebens cooked the vines and ate the large portion of the plant raw.

The Ebens had some type of white liquid, which we first thought was a form of milk. But after tasting it, our Team realized it was different, both in taste and content. The liquid came from a small tree located in the northern portion of the planet. The Eben's literally milked the tree for the liquid. It appeared to be some sort of pleasure to drink the stuff.


Our Team Members never got a real "taste" for the liquid. The Ebens cooked food. They make pots of stew, which was extremely tasteless to our team. We used a lot of salt and pepper. They also baked a form of bread. It was non-yeast bread and tasted fairly good, but caused extreme constipation to our Team Members.
We had to drink large quantities of water in order to digest the bread. 

The one common food that Ebens and our Team Members liked was the fruit. The Ebens ate a great quantity of fruit. The fruit, although different from anything we saw, was sweet.
Some of the fruit tasted something like melons, while others tasted like apples.


Another problem was water. The water on Serpo contained a number of unknown chemicals found by our team. Our Team eventually had to boil the water before drinking it. Seeing this, the Ebens built a large plant that processed water for our Team. 

In our Team's final report, written by the commander (Colonel), the report states that during the exchange period (he was careful not to use exact time periods), the Team was able to communicate with the Ebens about 50% of the time. There were some things we were never able to communicate.

Our Team brought along softball equipment for sporting activity. The Ebens would watch the game and laugh out loud. (The Eben laugh sounded like a high-pitched yell.) Eventually, the Ebens started playing the game, but never got used to catching the ball before it hit the ground.

Our Team also played touch football. Again, the Ebens watched the game intensely and then played it themselves. But again, like softball, the Ebens never figured out they had to catch the football before it hit the ground! 

Although our Team Members honored the privacy of the Ebens; our Team was allowed to witness births. Our team, snooping around, was able to capture the sexual activity of the Ebens. The males and females had similar sexual organs and performed intercourse. The frequency of sexual activity was not recorded as being as often as our society performed. It was believed that they performed the act for pleasure and reproduction.

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